Paul Heyman has always held CM Punk in high regard, and his admiration has only deepened over time.

In a recent interview with Shakiel Mahjouri of CBS Sports, “The Wise Man” reflected on the evolution of CM Punk, revisiting their “Paul Heyman Guy” days in WWE and assessing how Punk’s character has grown. Heyman emphasized how CM Punk is now a more fascinating and layered persona, with wisdom and depth that surpass even the celebrated “Summer of Punk” era.

When discussing Punk’s current presence in WWE compared to 12 years ago, Heyman expressed surprise at the growth of his character:
“If you had told me that in 2012 that 12 years later CM Punk would be a far more fascinating character than he is now at the height of his rebellious status, I’d say that’s just not in the cards for him, and yet I look at what he did with [Drew] McIntyre and realize that he’s so much more interesting now. He has a deeper connection with the audience now, which I never imagined would have been possible.”

Heyman also spoke about the evolution of Punk’s rebellious nature, noting how age and experience have added new layers to his character:
“You realize that rebels age out and once they do, they can no longer be the embodiment of the disruption that progresses against the establishment, and yet he is now the older rebel with a little more wisdom behind him and a little more tact involved and he’s that much more compelling version of a character and persona , let alone his ability to portray it , than ever before.”

Reflecting on the challenges CM Punk faced earlier in his WWE career, Heyman explained how the “Paul Heyman Guy” label created obstacles Punk had to overcome:
“CM Punk battled against the perception that he was only a ‘Paul Heyman guy.’ He got unfortunately dragged down by that tag. He became collateral damage to my fallout with management. Because of my fallout with management, he was tagged , that’s literally what they called him , ‘Oh yeah, the Paul Heyman guy.’ This guy was a magnificent performer, an all-time performer, a WrestleMania main eventer, a top-of-the-card-worthy performer from the moment he walked through the door. But he fought against that perception and proved himself through his hard work, connection with his audience, and the fact that no matter how stupid of a concept they threw at him, he made it work… He was undeniable. You could not stop the progress no matter how they self-sabotaged their product.”

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