Eric Bischoff's war of words with Tony Khan has now escalated following remarks made by Tony Khan, in which he stated WCW would still be in business and on TNT if Ted Turner "knew 1%" of what he knows about professional wrestling.
On the most recent 83 Weeks podcast, Bischoff responded.
"This all started way before, and I never commented on this stuff before because I donāt have a dog in the hunt, and itās fun to watch. To suggest as has been going on for quite some time that based on a percentage of a demo compared to a show thatās on a completely different night against completely different competition that somehow that correlates to AEW being more popular or a better product, I have an issue with that. Not an issue with believing, as Tony obviously does, and the talent obviously does, as well they should, that theyāre a better product. Subjectively, I would agree in many cases and have many times on social media. Iāve been equally as, Iām going to use the word critical but I donāt mean to be critical, itās more of a constructive criticism.
"Iāve spoken out consistently about the WWE product and what I feel is wrong with it from lack of storylines, lack of structured storylines that have an arc, build, and create anticipation. To me, thatās a huge problem with WWE, and Iāve been more than free with my comments in that regard, both before I went to work for AEW this last time from that cup of coffee I had in Stamford and afterwards.
"But the idea of, that number one, AEW, and more often than not, itās the Dave Meltzerās and the Bryan Alvarezās and those of that ilk, that are trying to twist and turn data, and interpret data in a way to try to create this impression that theyāre actually in a competition. Thatās where I throw a flag personally. But, for the first time, Iām going to explain exactly why unlike previous comments that were very similar that Iāve heard on social media, and from Tony, and from people in AEW on social media, this is the first time that I reacted the way that I did.
"What pulled my trigger was Tony came out before the head to head, itās not even head to head competition, before the Friday night in question. He reacted, and I donāt blame him for reacting the way he did. But part of his reaction included a comment that really p*ssed me off. When Tony came out and said, āIf Ted Turner knew 1% about what I do about professional wrestling, WCW would still be in businessā That lit my fu**ing fuse for a couple of reasons. For all the people Iām guessing that are tuning into this podcast to hear what my followup is, let me remind you, let me point out a couple things.
"Iām 99.9999% Tony Khan doesnāt have fu**ing idea what heās talking about in terms of if Ted Turner was a wrestling fan. I know I donāt. I can find out. I can call his son Teddy, and I probably will soon because Iām curious as to how far back Ted Turnerās relationship with professional wrestling started. Was Ted a wrestling fan growing up? I donāt know, and neither does Tony. So right off the bat, Tony made a statement that was misleading and ignorant. Ignorant in the literal sense of the word.
"Iāll say the same thing that Tony said about Ted. Tony said, āTed Turner may be a lot smarter than I am, but if he knew 1% about wrestling.ā Iām sure Tony is a much more intelligent person than I am. Tonyās a really brilliant guy. Iām pretty smart. Tonyās really, really smart. So when I use the term ignorant, Iām meaning lack of information and knowledge, which is I think the definition of the word ignorant and its application here.
"Number 1, it was an ignorant statement. For Tony to compare himself to Ted Turner, if thereās anything thatās laughable, thatās it. The last time I checked, the T in TNT and the T in TBS stands for Turner, which is a media empire that Ted started from scratch. For Tony to be in the position he is, and AEW is, on a Ted Turner network, to come out and suggest Ted knew nothing about professional wrestling, which he doesnāt know if thatās true or not. What made it worse, and this is like the height of the literal definition of ignorance, and this one is self-inflicted, for Tony to suggest that if Ted knew as much about professional wrestling as Tony Khan does, then WCW would still be around? Iām going to ask Guy Evans to send Tony The Nitro book that he wrote. Guy interviewed over a hundred people from Turner, who at that time, some of them worked for me. They were people that reported to me. Some of them didnāt even report to me. They reported to others who reported to me. They were down the corporate food chain so to speak. The flowchart if you will.
"But Guy also interviewed people that were way, way above my paygrade that were hands on instrumental in Turner at the time of the AOL-Time Warner merger and all of the things that represented, and most of them were very negative. Those executives know why WCW isnāt around. All of that is in the book, and all Tony has to do is read that book, and Tony would realize that it wasnāt because Ted Turner didnāt know 1% of what Tony Khan knows about professional wrestling. That was a really stupid comment to make. I was very disappointed to hear it. Iāve said stupid things. Iām capable of that. Iāll probably say some stupid things on this podcast. I get it when youāre emotionally charged, and youāre involved and in the fight. Sometimes dumb sh*t comes out of your mouth. Guilty as charged. But that one lit me up. I reacted viscerally. It was an honest reaction on our podcast. I still feel as strongly about it today as I did last week. That was a really dumb comment. Tony Khan, I know Ted Turner, and you are no Ted Turner. Thatās what made me go, āYou know what? Whatever it is, just for my own entertainment, Iām going to put this s**t in context.ā
"AEW is not in head-to-head competition. They are just not. They are in the same industry. Now, you can say, āWell they came at us, they extended that half hour into our time slot and that was an aggressive moveā, and that would be a fact. But to somehow spin that and try to suggest that you are a more popular product, you are a more successful product, you are winning some kind of a ratings war that only exists in the minds of dirt sheet writers and people that want to try to spin reality, thatās not right. Another disclaimer here, I am not encouraging Tony to go head to head with WWE. I think that would be a bad move. Itās just not time yet. Theyāre only a two year old company. They have a long, long runway ahead of them to grow their audience and grow their product. But right now, arguably, they havenāt done such a great job of growing that audience. Let me clarify that. Clearly, based on comments I get, people donāt really listen or think too much about what Iām saying. They react emotionally. They have a long way to go before theyāre head-to-head competition.
"All Iām suggesting is, rather than claiming youāre competing against, and somehow youāre competing favorably because youāre comparing a percentage of your demos on your Wednesday night show to a percentage of the demos on Monday Night RAW, notice they donāt talk about SmackDown too much. But on Monday Night RAW, when they go against Monday Night Football, which probably has the highest concentration of male 18-49 year old than just about anything else on TV in any given week, is a false equivalency. It just isnāt real. Itās data gymnastics.
"I hope Tony and I can maintain our relationship. If we do, Iām grateful for that, if we donāt, thatās life. I have no real skin in the game. Iām just trying to clarify my position. I did take personal umbrage to the fact that Tony would compare himself the way he did to Ted Turner. I just think it was just a dumb move."