EC3, who recently returned to Impact Wrestling with his new "control the narrative" gimmick, appeared on Chris Jericho's Talk is Jericho podcast to discuss his first vignette and his series of matches with Dean Ambrose.

"The call up happened, which was interesting, because you wait for the call up your whole life and the most interesting part is the vignette, right? They kind of haphazardly put all these vignettes together and my literal vignette to be called up to the biggest wrestling company in the world was filmed by my roommate in my apartment in Orlando. A nice apartment, don't get me wrong, it's pretty cool. I walk in, not in a suit, but looking nice. They're taking away the suit aspect in this Top 1%. We film the vignette in my apartment and it airs for like six weeks but we'd never hear anything about anything. Royal Rumble comes, I thought, 'I'll be number three, get a good pop, be off to a good start.' Nope. I think it was the week after, I'm working with Moxley.

We got to the live events, I'm working babyface and he's working heel, and he's getting great reactions because he should. He sacrificed for years for the company, he told the company 'F You' and people love that. For seven years, this guy puts his body and soul on the line, the people are going to love and respect him. I'm just a jacked-up dude in trunks who has no character or development. We're working these matches, he's getting cheered, but it's working though. It's my wheelhouse because if I can be pushed as the mega Five Moves of Doom babyface that can't be beat, but I'm obviously liked for certain reasons and people are turning against it, like Cena-ish, then I'm made. That was my pitch, 'Push me as a babyface, but I'm a heel."