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FormerĀ WWEĀ and WCW World ChampionĀ Kevin NashĀ was interviewed on this weekās edition of the Big WrestleShark Show, ahead of his upcoming appearances alongsideĀ Scott HallĀ andĀ Sean WaltmanĀ on the UKTakeoverĀ Tour. In the near hour long interview, Kevin discusses who took him under their wing, the feeling in the locker room when he joined WWF, jumping to WCW, the early days of the NOW, his thoughts onĀ TNAĀ as competition for WWE, working a ladder match at 52 years old and more. Here are someĀ highlightsĀ from the interview:
Moving to WWF the first time:Ā āThe biggest difference was I was in WCW, which was a television company that had wrestling and I went to the WWF, which was a wrestling company that did wrestling. Itās what they did, they specialized in it. From production, to professionalism, to direction, it was so night and day. Business was down then when I got there in ā93. But at the same time business was ten times better in WWF than it was in WCW. Weād get tobuildingsĀ and the guys would be complaining the house was down, and Iād look through the curtain and itād be the biggest crowd Iād ever worked in front of.
āThere was always a perception when you were in WCW of āwould you like to go to WWF?ā and the reaction was always āI donāt know if Iām ready.ā At the time all the guys that were in WWF who were all seasoned good workers with established personaās. Then when my era came along, the New Generation, a lot of those guys were leavingĀ the business.Ā Check out Wrestling Ā Inc.When I came in to WWF, Hulk was going to Turner, there was a kind of a changing of the guard, it was a very young crowdā¦ Bret had been there, but had spent most of his time as a tag team entity at that time, Shawn was on his up and coming, Scott Hall was becoming a star, theĀ UndertakerĀ was a star, Yoko was there and we were really starting toĀ buildĀ a nucleus.ā
Stories from the road:Ā āWe spent 300 days a year on the road when I first came in, and we would spend a ton of time in the UK because we did so well there. I think it kept the WWF alive. I remember doing a 19 day tour, being home for clothes and going back for a 21 day tour; only setting foot in the states to do TVās. At the same time, those trips were the craziest because you had a driver ā¦when you have a driver and youāre on a bus, there isnāt much to do but drink beer andĀ playĀ cards, and thatās what we did.
āWe were all young guys, we knew we had to do this together, we were a team, and it was just like stone by stone, we had toĀ buildĀ this thing back to what it once was. I think that group of guys on that bus, those 12 ā 18 guysā¦ Iāve got aĀ pictureĀ of that group in the back of the bus; itās Taker, the Kliq, Stone Cold, the only person whoās really not on that bus isĀ The Rock. Itās like the Attitude era and the NWO Era combined in the back of that bus. It makes me feel good that I was fortunate enough to be part of that group of guys. It was the perfect storm.ā
Recreating that atmosphere/lack of competition in wrestling:Ā āThere was such a changing of the guard. Turner really put out money to get name talent off of Vince. Even when Scott [Hall] and I left [WWF], I asked I asked Vince to match Turnerās offer, and he just told me monetarily he couldnāt do it. He couldnāt get into a bidding war with Turner, he would just have toĀ buildĀ another star.
āI just think that because there is not a strong alternative toĀ WWEĀ now, I donāt believe there will ever be another situation like that, where guys are jumping back and forth, and itās really that competitive, where there really is a war. Erich Bischoff made it known he was trying to put Vince out of business, and anyone who knowsĀ Vince McMahonĀ knows that youāre not going to put him out of business.
āI think itās missing. Itās hard to be your best without having somebody push you. Thereās just not a strong second to WWE, thereās just not. Iāll work independent shows, thereās nobody on the card but myself and weāll draw 1,200 people.Ā TNA put on a loaded card someplace in Texas and they get 480 paid peopleā¦ it just doesnāt make sense. I was there almost four and a half years and people at the airport would know who I was and ask what I was doing. I never felt that the Spike Channel pushed TNA. I felt they were so UFC based for so long that they just neverā¦ when was the last time you seen aĀ TNAĀ ad during a WWE program? Never, right? Go the opposite way and on Impact youāll see a WWE PPV ad! Thatās the whole thing, you canāt compete against them. You no longer have to even say what the card is, itās just that Raw or Smackdown are coming. It doesnāt matter. Itās the brand.ā
Reservations about adding Hogan to āThe Outsidersā?:Ā āFor me, there will never, ever be anotherĀ Hulk Hogan. So when they pushed the idea around that this would be the first time Hogan would do a heel turn and be part of us, I mean we were over but to get the Hogan rub and the fact that he was turning? It ensured success! It was such a water and oil mix of personalities and psychologies, that was the hard thing: but the selling of standing next to Hogan? When I was a mark he was my favorite, so here I am in the same ring with the guy and weāre on the same team Iām just like āwow, this is special.āā
Personal differences between the three:Ā āAt the beginning he was such a character, that bigger than life āBrother, brother, brother, let me tell you something brotherā type guy and me and Scott, we just talk like this. We didnāt screw around, we didnāt yell or scream, we were kind of sarcastic wise guys and thatās who we are. IāmĀ Kevin NashĀ and heāsĀ Scott Hall, thatās what it says on our drivers license. So that was the real difference, but I think it was part of what changed the perception of people. People all of a sudden seen guys come to the ring with baseball bats and then they actually hit people with them; people just realized this wasnāt the pro-wrestling they grew up with.ā
His last run in WWE againstĀ Triple H:Ā āIf you would have told me at 50 years old, that at 52 Iād be in a ladder match [laughs]. I think it was a rib. I think they booked it, they called me up, put me on speaker and were waiting for me to start cursing and then I said āalright fine Iāll do it,ā I think they just thought āoh my god heās going to do it.āĀ I knew it was against Paul, and Iāve always said Iāll work against anyone good enough to carry me! I canāt ballroom dance on my own. Gimme someone who can dance and I can do my part.
āHeās so busy from a running the company stand point, we basically called it on the fly because we didnāt have time to do anything. I got out there, picked up the ladder and Iām like, āoh my god this thing is heavy.ā Iām waiting for him to get up, and I know when he does Iām gonna swing it at him and I know just from the physics of it, Iām not gonna be able to stop this ladder once I swing itā¦ so itās comin. Thatās the thing about working with your friends; youāll take real good care of somebody you donāt know, but youāll beat the hell out of your friends.ā
You can check out the full interviewĀ at this link, which included Nash discussing his original run as Master Blaster, Oz, who was instrumental in his early years, the UKĀ TakeoverĀ Tour, beatingĀ Bob BacklundĀ in 10 seconds and more
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