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Former WWE Superstar Justin Gabriel, now known as "The Darewolf" P.J. Black, recently spoke to ProWrestling.com.
The following transcript comes from ProWrestling.com:
On meeting a homeless Adam Rose because he snuck into his dadâs backyard:Â
âIn my backyard my dad had a wrestling school and we had two or three wrestling rings. I would come home from school and bump around, and kind of train myself basically. I never had anyone to practice with, and this kid â I guess he was homeless at the time â jumped over the fence and started training in the ring. I was like âwho the hell is this kid?â and we just kind of became friends because I had somebody to practice with. He knew all the moves I knew, and from there we started a tag team. We literally had our first matches against each other.â
On if he still keeps up with WWE as an independent wrestler:Â
âI try to man, but thereâs so much stuff going on right now on TV. I try to catch the pay-per-views at least. Itâs impossible for me to catch the weekly shows; itâs just too much for me. Iâm just too busy. I donât ever have time to just sit down by myself for an hour, and if I do Iâll read a book, go to the gym or do some yoga; something to better myself. I donât even own a TV.â
The original concept for NXT as a reality show and nothing being scripted:Â
âDo you remember The Ultimate Fighter where all the fighters staid in the house? That was the initial idea, or something like that. But obviously time ran out [and]two days before they were like âOh shit, we donât have a house, we donât have anything.â Thatâs how unorganized they are. Basically everything was just free-style. Nothing was scripted in the matches and promos, nothing was scripted. I think we messed it up so bad that season two was HEAVILY scripted. It was kind of an on-the-fly thing and it was kind of a cool learning experience.â
On whether or not Nexus was cut way too short:Â
âYes. Definitely. Everyone says that all the time. It comes down to that one SummerSlam match and we probably should have gone over. You can debate this all day, but it probably would have ran longer. We didnât even get to WrestleMania because we were only around for like less than a year.â
How being drunk one night cost him a year in Lucha Underground:Â
âApparently Lucha [Underground] called me, and I have no recollection of this, but DJ the head writer said he called me and I must have been drunk. I donât drink anymore [laughs]. He said I was really cocky and I was like, âGive me a call back in a year or so.â A year went by and I watched the show on TV, and when I saw the first season I was like, âHow the hell did I turn this down? This is amazing!â He called me back the 2nd of October exactly a year later and was like, âAre you ready to come to work?'â
On the best things heâs been able to do in Lucha Underground:Â
âThatâs tough, man. Every day there is so different and so unique. Iâve been wrestling for 20 years now and Lucha is definitely the most fun Iâve ever had. Winning the Trios title â that was pretty dope. Just all the unique vignettes that we get to do. I donât know if youâve seen my debut, but that to me was probably the best thing ever.â
Bringing the âDarewolfâ gimmick to the indies after WWE nixed the idea:
âI actually pitched that in WWE and Vince loved it, so he obviously trademarked it immediately. And then Hunter didnât like it that much⊠Thatâs what happens in WWE. They have so much talent and I feel like the office is like, âHey what are we gonna do with this guy?â They kind of go back and forth like âNo letâs do this, letâs do thisâ, and then move on to the main event, and then they kind of forget about those guys. I think in the era that I quit that happened a lot.â
On the quality of the indies in 2018 and if heâd ever return to WWE:
âIn WWE thereâs not a lot of money. I probably make more money on the indies these days. Thereâs so many good talents out there right now, and I have creative freedom. Iâm just having the time of my life right now. I just went to Australia, before that it was South Africa, I get to compete in England next week. I get to go to all these places that, even though in WWE we went, but we could only spend a day because we would do a show and go to the next time. Now I get to spend time in all these cool places. Never say never, I learned that from Vince. But probably never.â
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